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Nov 30, 7:15 AM
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Stark700
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I just find it rather interesting on how far the bishop take their goals. Oczy deserves some praise though for his character, seems the show wants him to improve overall.
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Nov 30, 7:36 AM
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AshuAmbrose
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Edit: Found it on the cat sound website
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Nov 30, 8:33 AM
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FarCritical
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And make no mistake, "I remembered I don't eat much" is shorthand for "I-it's not like I gave you my share of bread because I appreciate you or anything, okay?!"
Nov 30, 8:56 AM
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phantomfandom
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Badeni's version of eureka moment is quite intense.
Nov 30, 8:57 AM
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utopia-
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Honestly, I hate Badeni as much as the Catholic Church at that time. Badeni believes that God chooses only those privileged for worthy knowledge and intellectual aptitude, this kind of thinking is very segregationist, Badeni is truly a despicable character and this is being proven with each episode, the fact that he didn't let Oczy follow his scriptures also made me very angry, who does he think he is? I hate when these types of characters appear who think they are the chosen one and smart for such a thing, He's like Ayanokoji, but an old version, I hate that kind of arrogant character.
Despite my outburst... Badeni seems to be progressing in his research, after all he finally managed to associate the movements of the planets with elliptical movements, I feel that after this research he will start publishing his ideas, which will make the church make Badeni a heretic (in the future)
Oczy seems to be more open to learning, although I don't like him either because he seems like an idiot, I like that he is actually helping people in need and trying to learn to study.
In this episode we also had the Catholic Church beginning its bias in training new inquisitors, man, the church tries so hard to be hateful lol
Overall, it was an episode where I was very angry with almost every character (except Oczy), It was at its usual slow pace, but it was ok. The previous episode still manages to be the best of the orb.
Episode 3/5
Nov 30, 9:03 AM
#6
gorkthe134th
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This is my least favorite episode so far.
I can't really explain why, but I'm getting less and less interested in this anime.
This one in particular was more boring than usual, as Jolenta is missing and Oczy is mostly in the background.
There is still a moment I love in this episode, the first scene in the barn!
"It's a good thing that most people can't read or write. [...] Leaving words behind is a heavy responsibility. [...] If the written word was available to everyone, unreliable information would flood the world. It would be a dire situation indeed."
You can't deny it, he does make a good point. That's basically what's happening with the Internet in the present day!
Nov 30, 9:04 AM
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utopia-
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With the several months of timeskip, it's interesting how some characters have developed including Oczy. More so, this episode also shows that the church is willing to do what it takes to further their ambition.
I just find it rather interesting on how far the bishop take their goals. Oczy deserves some praise though for his character, seems the show wants him to improve overall.
Stark700 said:
Oczy merece alguns elogios por seu personagem, parece que a série quer que ele melhore no geral
Yes, Oczy is really improving, I like that. When he first appeared he looked like a robot with no opinion of his own, It's great to see him changing little by little, I hope he becomes an intellectual worthy of being mentioned in the future for his achievements in history. I'm enjoying this development
Nov 30, 9:04 AM
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Pre_Yum
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Can't wait to see where things go from here on out. Nowak is still in the story and I wanna see where his story goes in this show. Badeni is really such a fascinating guy. Almost everyone in this show is a really interesting character.
Nov 30, 9:06 AM
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otakuweek
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i love the dialogues,we can really feel the reflections etc
can't wait to see the next one
just have a look, you won't regret it...
Nov 30, 9:42 AM
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The comedic timing of Grabowski leaving in amazement of Badeni's intellectual yapping about rainbows only to come back to ask for a cliffnotes version for the kids was absolute gold lmao.
And make no mistake, "I remembered I don't eat much" is shorthand for "I-it's not like I gave you my share of bread because I appreciate you or anything, okay?!"
@FarCritical You forgot the "Baka!"
Nov 30, 9:57 AM
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Mcsuper
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As we near the halfway point of this series, I really think something huge is going to happen soon, especially with Badeni's newfound heliocentric theory. I wonder how the characters like Grabowski and Nowak will factor into this. It was also nice to see Oczy learning to read and write, he's an interesting character, who always strived to help others despite not having resources of his own. Now he's trying to gain some intellect, doing something for himself, which is a step in the right direction for him. Every character has been interesting to watch so far, and that's what makes this show shine every episode.
Nov 30, 10:00 AM
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WaterMage
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Bro found eclipse it's over.
Nov 30, 10:31 AM
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PokefanPT
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Him judging Oczy for wanting to learn how to read and write is really low, although they did a good job explaining his version of the facts. Not sure if the fact that he had to kill his own friend has to do with anything of this.
Jolenta teaching Oczy on how to read and write, Jolenta best character I'm afraid.
I really wonder what Badeni was looking for in Oczy, and what his deal with the homeless was.
Anyways, I'm really surprised in how quick the theory was actually finished. I thought we would still need another generation to be able to complete it. But no, it's done. The discovery that the orbits are eliptical and not circular was really well executed, and I'm glad they didn't drag it, because it was really satisfying to be like "Badeni, the observations aren't wrong, the orbits are eliptical" and then he gets to that conclusion, and vomits away his older thoughts.
The episode ends with 2 random inquisitors, and I'm wondering why are they getting screentime, and then right by the end you see that Nowak is going to be the one to train them. I can't wait to see Nowak's reaction when he discovers that Rafal's discovery is still being completed, 10 years later, just like he predicted!
Ahhh, I can't really wait for the next episode, it feels like it's going to be big, since they are hinting that Oczy and Badeni are going to get caught! Also, I'm wondering if they are reintroducing Jolenta later!
Edit: Forgot to mention how Oczy is becoming much more of an interesting character too! It's sad to see the Church filled him with so much trauma, when he's actually a really good person!
PokefanPTNov 30, 10:35 AM
Nov 30, 10:50 AM
#14
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His classist attitude of Oczy learning to read and write despite being bad at it, threatened his biases and his intellectual superiority. Making him realize his own biases also made him realize Count Piast's own biases in his theoretical assumptions leading to the completion of the heliocentric theory.
I love to see Oczy's character development and good intentions even if he just wants to make up for his past sins. He's able to keep Badeni's ego in check.
Badeni haggling them for materials only to give a very detailed explanation of how rainbows work that Grabowski couldn't understand was pretty funny.
Nov 30, 10:59 AM
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WhiteTestament
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Great ep setting up a few plot points for upcoming eps...
Nov 30, 11:17 AM
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Marinate1016
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Good to get some more backstory about Badeni in this one. Idk why I assumed his scar had something to do with his eye but I forgot those were separate. I feel like them bringing up that he killed a friend with whom he shared research sets up he and Oczy having a fall out and him killing Oczy or selling him out? God that would break me. Seems likely tho especially with Nowak getting involved now and Oczy learning to read.
Marinate1016Nov 30, 12:04 PM
Nov 30, 11:27 AM
#17
Kocodrilo
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The anime still has a lot episodes, if the theory is already completed from now on the objective will be publicating it maybe?
I'm also curious to how the inquisitors will affect everything
Nov 30, 12:17 PM
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Nov 30, 12:50 PM
#19
Baranka02
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Am I the only one who loves Badeni? He's an ass but still an interesting ass and I love his interactions with Oczy. Not to be dramatic, but I'd die for them, and for Jolanta, too 😭😭😭
Nov 30, 2:23 PM
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I am currently braving the storms of the 7 seas and still can't find this episode for some reason if anyone had any luck please point me ship to the treasure.
Edit: Found it on the cat sound website
@AshuAmbrose just use animepahe my man
Nov 30, 2:30 PM
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Igzymig
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History anime continues to go so hard.
Nov 30, 2:36 PM
#22
Narizor
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I think Oczy indirectly helped Badeni. Badeni read his diary, and some of what he read gave him some ideas, or maybe he read it out of curiosity and found it interesting. In any case, it seems that the geocentric theory has come to an end.
Nov 30, 2:56 PM
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Rren
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I wish we knew the real reson behind increasing the rations. Was it a tsundere way to apologise to Oczy? Or to make Oczy feel less guarded to make it somehow easier to put all the blame on him?
There's no way no one noticed a fella digging a tunnel under the Church's property. xD
Nov 30, 4:18 PM
#24
Stormy_77
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Especially at the end when that hated Inquisitor Nowak appeared, geez that guy is heartless.
Nov 30, 4:48 PM
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But why did the translators translate "Chi" with "Truth"? There's literally no form where "Chi" would mean "Truth". "Chi" means "Knowledge", and considering the story, that's pretty severe difference. Truth can be a politically/subjectively loaded term. "Knowledge" means to be facts-based. So the translation in the anime is pretty much the opposite of what was meant.
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you.
Nov 30, 6:25 PM
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silversain2
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NGL i kinda like that we have such an elitist asshole as a protagonist
Nov 30, 7:32 PM
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LunaLov
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Oczy's character is really starting to grow on me. In the begining he seemed like just another insecure and scared guy but he's actually so humble and kind. I also believe his attitude might end up helping Badeni's charecter development, as much as i like him i want to see him become less arrogant (even though we can kinda understand where his attitude comes from with more of his backstory). It's sad that Jolenta wasnt present in this episode tho. But oh man, the theory is complete and Nowak is back...
Halloween candies:
Nov 30, 7:38 PM
#29
LunaLov
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Great episode.
But why did the translators translate "Chi" with "Truth"? There's literally no form where "Chi" would mean "Truth". "Chi" means "Knowledge", and considering the story, that's pretty severe difference. Truth can be a politically/subjectively loaded term. "Knowledge" means to be facts-based. So the translation in the anime is pretty much the opposite of what was meant.
@MyllerPhiem I agree, i also noticed that. Netflix is not very good with japanese translations
Halloween candies:
Nov 30, 9:48 PM
#30
GakutoDeathGlare
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Oczy's timid nature is exhausting to watch lol
Nov 30, 11:36 PM
#31
AshuAmbrose
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@AshuAmbrose just use animepahe my man
@arc1only I usually watch my animes immediately after they are released and animepahe and other streaming sites take a while to upload them
Dec 1, 4:32 AM
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Dec 1, 7:21 AM
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@arc1only I usually watch my animes immediately after they are released and animepahe and other streaming sites take a while to upload them
@AshuAmbrose idk if you haven't used animepahe in a while but it has the episode the moment it releases.
Dec 1, 7:26 AM
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AshuAmbrose
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@AshuAmbrose idk if you haven't used animepahe in a while but it has the episode the moment it releases.
@arc1only I actually did check animepahe before I made that comment and saw it first on nyaa
Dec 1, 7:36 AM
#35
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I did not expect Grabowski to be the one to pick up Piast's book, I wonder how it's going to affect Grabowski and what he is going to do from this point on. Badeni really made himself a badass in his cover story for what happened to his eye lmao.
Oczy's a good boy, I'm sure his diary will end up becoming important for the future, like that ball.
My heart immediately sunk when they revealed those are inquisitor trainees, I dread those fucks and Nowak's going to train those 2 trainees that seems like they will be important characters moving forward. Still waiting for that inevitable Nowak and Jolenta conflict.
Also, they're not introduce building a tunnel into the story and not use it, they're 100% going to use it at some point and I am not looking forward to it.
Badeni has now completed the heliocentric theory, now how will he reveal it to the world without the inquisitors coming for his ass (they will) and having the world and the Church accept it.
Dec 1, 9:29 AM
#36
Safuan12616
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With these episode aired I think only 1 or 2 episodes left to complete part 2.
Dec 1, 10:55 AM
#37
Rasco
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Well not sure where we go from here now that the monk badeni has all the answers, I guess he will now try to somehow implement his finding within scripture.
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Dec 1, 2:41 PM
#38
MoonBased2
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So many interesting ways this could go! It just makes me wonder how many more episodes or seasons are left. I really hope the entire story is adapted!
Yesterday, 7:10 AM
#39
AnimeSrk
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Badeni has finished his research. let's see how he will move next.
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#40
Quanda1eDing1e
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i enjoyed this episode a lot. The heliocentric theory is complete, I actually thought it was gonna take a few more episodes. Badeni truly is a genius, but is he a good person? Not sure, we'll see what he paid the hobo to do in the next episode
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